By: Sean M. Guay

HARRISBURG, Pa. — A group is making a push in Pennsylvania to get rid of a restriction that prevents people who aren’t here legally from getting a driver’s license or state identification.

This proposed legislation is controversial due to the potential implications for noncitizens to register to vote.

A similar circumstance exists in New York where a loophole in the law granting illegal immigrants driver’s licenses could lead to voter fraud. The new law granting driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants will allow hundreds of thousands of people to fraudulently register to vote in New York, according to critics, the state Board of Elections and the bill’s own sponsor.

Members of the Driving PA Forward Coalition said there are 150,000 to 200,000 undocumented Pennsylvanians who could benefit from being allowed to obtain a standard issue state ID or a driver’s license using an individual tax identification number.

According to a report in January, 2019, Pennsylvania officials admit that more than 11,000 noncitizens have already registered to vote due to a glitch in state motor vehicle bureau computers that allowed noncitizens to register to vote easily.

Members of the coalition said driver’s licenses are a state issue, and with no action at the federal level, they’re pressing for change at the State Capitol in Harrisburg, and has more outreach events planned in the coming months. They argue that by allowing undocumented people in Pennsylvania to drive legally it would help them better provide for their families, give them a way to get to and from work and make the roads safer.

 

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32 Comments

  1. This is bullshit
    Been here legal for the last 20 years and I can’t vote had to go true all steps to get ss and driver licenses and that were is my pampering for been legal and doing it after the book

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    1. You shouldn’t have a driver’s license at all you should become a u.s. citizen if you’ve been here for 20 years

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      1. They should round them all up and send them back

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    2. Then become a US citizen if you have been here 20 years!!!

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  2. Niles Miller 19 Jul 2019 at 7:43 am

    This isn’t good it not fair to the one’s that went though the system and the ones that going though, we should not pass this bill,

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    1. This is bull. They are breaking the law. That is what illegal means. Quit giving crap to them. Put them on a bus back to where they came from. You know they will get drivers license and not get insurance. They will be hitting our family with their worthless pieces of crap and then high tail it out of here for the victim to be stuck paying medical bills. I do not understand how these people break the law and then get rewarded. I hate illegal immigrants. They are robbing this country of our resources. Thank you to all who come here legally. Get legal jobs. That is how it is suppose to be done.

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  3. I am an American citizen i am all for this bill to pass i believe if they have no criminal history an clean background check an have an ITN # want to work an provide for there families then pass the bill if they pay the taxes let them be able to get the state ID to be able to work the right way an drive legally at the end of the day we all are immigrants are ancestors came here

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    1. Have no criminal history? What do you think illegal alien means?

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      1. Driving is an “Privilege” NOT a “Right”! Illegals are just that “Illegal”! Harrisburg is already breaking the law giving “Illegals” voting privileges, because Harrisburg said so. Whats next giving them driving licences and insurance be damned, OR are PA taxpayers going to foot that bill too?

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    2. So you want them to drive legally? How about being here legally first? My ancestors were from Prussia but they went through the legal process to be here as many many others did. They assimilated into the American way of life and obeyed all the laws. Do you believe these ‘undocumented’ (illegal) immigrants are above the law? Without law there’s chaos! Would you want to live in a land of chaos?

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    3. The difference is our ancesters came here legally. Are ancesters also were not gang members,drug runners,and child sex transporters. Things were different back then. We didnt have to worry about terrorists then either.Thats why its important they enter legally so we know who we are letting in.

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    4. Randy Hochstein 20 Dec 2019 at 3:11 pm

      No Rebeca, I couldn’t disagree more. They should go through the process to become a citizen of the US in order to receive any of the rights and privileges of an American citizen. Frankly, I don’t think it should even be open to debate.

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    5. Debbie Sutton 22 Dec 2019 at 5:35 am

      NO

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    6. philadelphiahez 23 Dec 2019 at 9:45 am

      Did your’s sneak across the border? Mine sure as Hell didn’t. You don’t reward people for breaking our laws. What next with you Libtarded idiots? Maybe unemployment checks for people in prison since they “lost” their jobs?

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    7. Rebecca, so you are ok with illegals voting? Cause that is what this law is REALLY about.

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    8. Sorry Becca, we’re NOT all immigrants. Our forefathers the American Colonists were foreigners and even here ILLEGALLY when they took North America from Native Americans. Contemporary Americans were “born” here so we’re not immigrants. You seem to be confused about real-world facts. Back in the 1600s the WORLD population was in the MILLIONS. Today it is approaching 8 Billion. There are few if any unexplored and populated areas on the planet. American population alone is approaching 400 M. Jobs are being lost to technology with no central plan to re-educate and plan for future employment for people [as a result of machines taking their jobs]. Americans are loosing jobs to globaliztion. Why are we NOT utilizing national resources to train and educate Americans who were born here? It’s time that Americans [like many other nations] come to the realization that immigration is simply an escape from deplorable conditions those immigrants themselves tolerated because of corrupt governments, etc. Rather than putting forth the effort to make their native countries more civil.

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  4. THIS ISNT FAIR FOR OTHER PEOPLE,THEM ASSHOLES WILL DRIVE LIKE THEY OWN THE ROADAND THERE WILL BE MORE ACCIDENTS ON THE HIGH WAY AND THEY WILL GET AWAY WITH IT.

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  5. Stop trying to put the cart before the horse! Apply for citizenship, go through the process, become a citizen and EARN the right to vote here by becoming a Pennsylvanian and an American. It’s not rocket science. Otherwise how about we let Marylanders Ohioans, West Virginians, New Jerseyians, and New Yorkers vote on what our state should and should not do? Would make as much sense. Would you let your neighbors dictate how you manage your own household? Use some common sense!

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  6. This is only a privilege for those who are LEGAL Americans, what is wrong with you!! Oh, I know you DEMOCRATS just want another manipulative way to gain votes BECAUSE you know aAmerica is waking up to your perverse ways and most won’t be voting for you!! Like a bully on the playground, like a young child cheating to get his way,that is what your party has become!!l Shame on you!!!

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  7. David Lipsius 20 Jul 2019 at 7:11 pm

    BS!!! They are illegal. They have NO RIGHTS. Why give them access to so many things requiring a licence. You people are dumber than dirt.

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  8. I certainly hope the Republican majority has a spine and keeps this from becoming law. Otherwise they can say goodbye to their conservative majority because illegals usually vote liberal Democratic. And, why have laws if an illegal immigrant has the same, if not more, rights than a legal resident of Pennsylvania, let alone the USA?!

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  9. Maggie Williams 21 Aug 2019 at 3:35 pm

    My representative better not allow this through! We have enough voter fraud in the larger cities as it is! Democrats will do anything to change elections!!!

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    1. Prove this fraud, I see it now when the 8 million democrats who voted for trump over hillary come back trumps going to try to stay in office

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  10. What part of they deserve absolutely nothing doesn’t anyone get.. I have emigrated here 52 years ago legally and went through all the steps to becoming a US citizen. These people are being rewarded for breaking the law, by you criminal Democrats. ICE SHOULD BE STANDING OUTSIDE OF EVERY PENDOT LOCATION AND ARREST THEM ON THE SPOT AND DEPORT THEIR ASSES BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM!!!

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  11. Gerald MC adams 20 Dec 2019 at 4:52 pm

    It’s the dems fault to get votes if they have I’d they can vote it’s bs

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  12. There are policies already in place for them why fast track and change them…I have witnessed an illegal person get a loan at wells Fargo in Carlisle and I’m born here with 3 accounts and I couldn’t get a loan. This is sad and utterly a slap in the face. I ask the rep how is this even legal they stated that any illegal person can get a loan due to insurance that the bank has but a citizen with poor credit not bad but poor or no credit there is no insurance for and that person is considered a high risk. I laughed and closed all accounts and went to F and M Trust

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    1. Get better income and stop crying bum. Sad an Illegal immigrant makes more than you and has better money managing history eith the bank. Lol you made yourself look like the idiot here

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  13. OK Penndot Suspended my license for underage drinking at 15, I could not get one because it was lost in the system till Wolfe passed a lay I received a letter stating it was off suspension after 28 years.

    Should we be concern about illegal voting among people who can drive with felons? Or teenagers 16 and 17 years old?

    Trust me till you dont have a legal way to get a driver license you have no idea how hard it is to support yourself.

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  14. Richard McShane 21 Dec 2019 at 2:01 pm

    WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE POLITICIANS??? WHY WOULD YOU GIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY ANY MORE PRIVILEGES?? I AM A VETERAN WHO HAD TO FIGHT FOR 6 YEARS TO GET MY DISABILITY BENEFITS! AND OUR STATE LEGISLATURE WANTS TO GIVE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS MORE RIGHTS THAN I HAVE!!!

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  15. This is crazy! It’s an absolute slap in the face to those that came and went through all the proper channels to become citizens. Undocumented are here ILLEGALLY! That means they are breaking the law, and you want to reward them by giving them drivers licences and letting them vote? There is no other country in The world that would allow this!!!

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  16. SUSAN MARIE SCHOCH 23 Dec 2019 at 6:52 pm

    Our politicians have gone mad. Illegals do not have the right/privilege to drive or vote in PA and it should stay that way. As far as I am concerned if you have come here undocumented/illegally the you are a felon. Prisoners lose their rights and privileges when convicted of a crime, illegal actions and you want to give illegals rights and privileges when they have committed a crime. So sad. No way should they stay here. Send them back and go thru the proper process.

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  17. Bullshit there alrady breaking the law by being here illegally send them back and let them come in the right way the legal way then i wouldnt have an issue pa is becoming a communist state will find out whos voting for this and be voting them out of the office.

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